I found this over at Father Z's Blog. The question I am interested in is whether children have a right to the TLM and instruction regarding the TLM. Do children have a right and if so do pastors of souls have a duty to provide this to our children. What if anything is being done to provide this treasure of tradition to our children? I know of at least of one pastor in Miami who is offering the TLM, albeit sporadically. This of course isn't counting the two parishes that offer a regular TLM at St. Robert Bellarmine and in Lighthouse Point. What is your experience in your parish?
PCED response about TLMs for children
One of the WDTPRSers sent me a copy of an interesting response to a question put to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei.
I don’t have the original letter of the sender containing the question(s), but we can perhaps discern what was going on.
Here is the main part of the PCED response:
You raise the question as to whether school children are permitted by right to be exposed to the celebration of the Eucharist in the extraordinary form provided all necessary catechesis is offered. the answer is obviously positive.I am guessing that the question we put to the PCED because someone suggested to the writer that TLMs are too hard for children, that Latin isn’t appropriate for them.
Of course, they are permitted to be exposed to the celebration of the Mass according to the extraordinary form. No doubt, a number of them already assist at this Mass with their parents on Sunday.
We trust the the priests of the Institute of Christ the King and those who collaborate with them will help engage the children’s participation in some way with songs or chants. we would also suggest that the readings for Masses be read in the vernacular as this is in full accord with the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum and could further help to maintain their attention.
A couple things. First, we don’t know what age "school children" are. They might be 6 or 16, with rudimentary English or, perhaps home-schooled with Latin. Common sense must be used.
Also, from the onset after the text of the Motu Proprio was released I spoke of my option that the vernacular could be used during TLMs. That doesn’t mean I think it should: I am saying that Summorum Pontificum permitted it (as did the PCED’s guidelines many years ago). I am not sure about the best way to handle this, however. Perhaps the priest could do as he would during a low Mass on a Sunday, leave the altar and read the readings a second time. Perhaps he would not read in Latin, but rather read them in English. Perhaps someone else would read them in English while Father was reading them normally in Latin. I don’t know.
However, what the PCED wrote was a suggestion. It can be taken or not.
Also, songs and chants could be used to "engage the children’s participation". Well… okay. But I suppose that means having Missa cantata. Otherwise are we now into the thorny problem of the role of "hymns" and "songs" versus the actual liturgical texts of the Mass? I don’t know.
Another thing, and interesting, is that children have the right to be exposed to the TLM. They have a right. If they have a right, then pastors of souls have a duty to respond. And since there are children pretty much everyone, as memory serves, then pastors of souls pretty much everywhere have the duty to see that the rights of those children are being met.
Furthermore, since children themselves don’t know their rights or know clearly what is good for them, and they might even from time to time resist what is good for them, pastors of souls should nevertheless persevere in building up the TLM in parishes.
By extension, adults also have these rights. Pastors of souls should also see to the needs of their spiritual children even if no request has been made.
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Interesting post. I'm also in Miami and when I phoned the Archdiocese to ask whether they knew if any more TLM's would be added I got a terse "no." Which parish has sporadic TLMs, because I'd like to bring my daughter there?
The parish was Visitation in North Miami. However, the pastor, Reverend Father Christopher Marino, has been transferred to a more central parish, St. Michael the Archangel. St. Thomas the Apostle in South Miami was also working on getting ready to offer the Extraordinary Form but a year has passed and I believe they have not had one yet. The pastor, Reverend Father Daniel Kubala, was even enlisting the help of an FSSP priest from a neighboring diocese. I would keep these priests in your prayers.
I emailed Fr Kubala and even phoned, but received no response from him and the people at the rectory said there were no further plans. I also phoned Epiphany and was told that Msgr. O'Dougherty has not yet made a final decision. Let's pray for them all.
I'd be willing to provide support in the form of stewardship or other assistance to any Pastor willing to start a regular Sunday diocesan TLM in central or south Dade. Should we start an email list or something?
There is also one other priest who offers the TLM in South Dade, Father Fishwick. However, this is not in a parish setting. I believe it is in a local hospital. I have been considering forming a local "Latin Mass Society" but I don't normally run into too many people who are interested. That is one of the reasons for the blog. If you know of other people who are interested in the TLM then it would be better to form a "stable group" and approach a particular parish together.
Also, it might be helpful to approach other people at your regular parish to see about getting a "stable group" together. Don't forget Father Marino at St. Michael's. Please keep me posted on any progress. Another suggestion would be to begin learning to assist as a server at the TLM since that is likely to be a real need in most cases.
I'll try to phone Fr Marino later and let you know what I learn. I'd be 100% behind starting a Latin Mass Society; that would be an excellent way to network, build a knowledge base, and share resources within the diocese. I think if more people were aware of the option of TLM they'd be interested, especially younger people. I also think that if more priests saw interest and support among the laity they'd be willing to get started.
I agree that if more people knew about the TLM option they'd be interested. I have been calling into AM 1040 Radio Peace's 5:00 PM show whenever I can to "put the word out" but I am not sure that they have a large audience.
I am not sure if the local chancery office is supportive of the TLM so
I have created a Yahoo E mail Account miamilatinmass@yahoo.com so that we can exchange e mail and information.
I'm emailing you now.
Please we need a latin mass,My Daugther lives in St Marys Ks. and goes to a Traditional mass and is so wonderfull ,please we want to have a latin Mass in Miami
Reyna Fajardo
Reyna,
I would recommend by asking your pastor if there is any plan to have the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite in the future. They may be planning one. I know Father Marino previously had offered Low Mass on several occasions at Visitation in North Miami. Now he is at St Michael the Archangle on Flagler Street. What is your home parish?
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